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What is the secret of Harry Potter?
JKR: I don’t know. That’s the question I get asked most of
all, I think and it’s really hard for me to say because as far as
I am concerned, this was my private little world. I had been writing about
it for 5 years before anyone else read a word of it and I never, I just
never expected this. I can’t tell you how unexpected this has been
to me.
What did you think of the --- now, now, now, let me just --- I would
say as I read these stories, it’s this combination. It’s very
Dickinsian in a certain way ---- but hardship to begin with, cruelty and
then magic, escape, release.
JKR: A gentleman said to me the other day, you could make a good
case, couldn’t you, for Harry actually becoming mentally ill under
all of the neglect and the abuse that the Dursleys heap upon him. And
this is his whole kind of schizophrenic fantasy he has. That is not what
I believe, I mean I don’t want to read that into it at all, but
she was saying that and I suppose that in a sense that is true. He does
go through this appalling time and then he’s rescued in the most
magnificent way any child could possibly be rescued.
Well, it goes back to Hamlet, the death of a parent too.
JKR: Yeah
It begins with the loss in infancy of --
JKR: --both of his parents. They are both murdered.
James and Lily. Exactly.
JKR: Yeah.
Why did He-Who-Can-Not-Be-Named, Voldemort, if I can get away, Voldemort,
why did he do it?
JKR: Well, that’s a really key question and I can’t answer
it because you will find that out over the course of the 7 book series.
There are a lot of questions that children ask me that I just have to
keep saying ‘Well, you’ll find out in Book 5’ because
I don’t want to ruin future plots obviously.
Where did you come by the sort of ---- there is a code --- a sort
of a DNA pattern to these stories? Again, the boy who grows up, a foundling,
so to speak, in somebody else’s cupboard. He’s treated very
badly by this other boy in the house. Where does this start? I don’t
want to say formula, but where did the idea, the posture of these stories
begin in your own head?
JKR: The funny thing is that Harry came into my head almost completely
formed. I saw him very, very clearly. I could see this skinny little boy
with black hair, this weird scar on his forehead. I knew instantly that
he was a wizard, but he didn’t know that yet. Then I began to work
out his background. That was, that was the basic idea. He’s a boy
who is magic but doesn’t yet know. So I’m thinking, well how
can he not know. You know, so I worked backwards from that point. It was
almost like the story was already there waiting for me to find it and
it seemed to me the most watertight explanation for him not knowing that
he was a wizard was that his parents had been a witch and wizard who had
died and that he had been raised by Muggles, non-magic people.
What about the names themselves? Muggles, to begin, but the whole
catalog of wizards, Albus Dumbledore, Voldemort, Hagrid.
JKR: I’m big on names. I like names, generally. You have to be really
careful giving me your name if it’s an unusual one because you will
turn up in Book 6. I collect --- Some of them are invented. Voldemort
is an invented name. Malfoy is an invented name. Quiddich is invented.
But I also collect them from all kinds of places, maps, street names,
names of people I meet, old books on saints. Mrs. Norris, people will
recognize comes from Jane Austin. Dumbledore is an old English word meaning
bumblebee. Since Albus Dumbledore is very fond of music, I always imagined
him sort of humming to himself a lot.
Rubeus Hagrid
JKR: Yeah, Hagrid is one of my favorite characters. He’s the giant
kind of gamekeeper at the school. Hagrid is also another old English word
meaning if you were Hagrid, it’s a dialect word meaning you’d
had a bad night. Hagrid’s a big drinker. He has a lot of bad nights.
Minerva McGonagall
JKR: Yeah, McGonagall is a very, very bad Scottish poet. McGonagall is,
I just love the name.
Hermione Granger
JKR: Yeah, Hermione, yes, people will want to know how to pronounce Hermione.
I get asked that so much because people a lot of times say Her-me-one
which I think is really cute. I wish I had told people right in the beginning
it was pronounced Her-me-one. Hermione is a Shakespearean name. I consciously
set out to choose a very unusual name for Hermione because I didn’t
want a lot of very hard working little girls to be teased if ever the
book was published because she is a very recognizable type, to which I
belonged when I was younger.
I was going to say, are you a Hermione?
JKR: Yeah. I mean none of the characters in the books are directly taken
from life, but real people did inspire a few of them, but of course, once
they are on the page they become something completely different. Yeah,
Hermione is a caricature of what I was when I was 11, a real exaggeration.
I wasn’t that clever. Hermione is borderline genius at points and
I hope I wasn’t that annoying because I would have deserved strangling.
Sometimes she’s an incredible know-it-all.
You’ve introduced an almost talking Brazilian boa constrictor.
JKR: Yeah, I like him.
I do too. One of the first signs to young Harry that things are
not quite what they seem.
JKR: Yeah, that’s right. I’m fond of that scene. That’s
the reading I always do. This is the scene, for people who haven’t
read the book, where Harry --- until Harry is 11, he is inadvertently
making magic happen a lot, but he has no idea what’s going on. This
strange stuff keeps happening around him. This culminates in an occasion
on his cousin Dudley’s birthday where Harry accidentally sets a
boa constrictor on Dudley at the zoo, by releasing it by magic from it‘s
tank. That’s my favorite reading to do from Book 1. I could do that
one in my sleep.
Maybe we ought to do it while you wait here. We’ll come to
that. I’d love you to read some of this. I’d also like for
you to see some of --- you say you were writing this in, you know, over
tea in shops for 5 years before anybody saw it. People maybe know enough
about you and your history. I’m not sure we do know enough though
about how you, how you actually composed this.
JKR: When I started writing it, I had never thought of writing for children.
I had been writing almost all my life. I mean, the first story I ever
finished I was 6 years old. All I’ve ever wanted to be was a writer
and I have been writing ever since I was 6. I‘ve never thought of
myself as a children‘s writer. But I’ve never been so excited
about an idea for a book as I had about the Harry books, so I ended the
novel I was working on, and started on Harry. But it is a lot of work
to create an entire world and it was about 5 years to finish the first
book, to plot the remaining 6 books, because they were already plotted
before the first book was published and Book 2 was started before Book
1 was finished. Yeah, so I spent an awful lot of time thinking about the
details of the world and working it out in depth.
Are you sticking with that outline of the 7?
JKR: Yeah, but each time I hit a new book, I will find that there’s
other stuff I want to do, so you know, I have a basic structure for each
book, but sometimes I’ll decide we’ll play around with that
middle section because I don’t much like it as much as I did back
in 1992 when I originally found it.
Why 7 and what is the contour that you want to complete?
JKR: Well 7 is for several reasons, but I suppose the main one, I was
7 years at my secondary school. That’s kind of standard in England.
7 is also a magical number. I wanted him to come of age at 17. It just
seems a good number for a wizard to come of age. So that meant 7 books,
that meant 7 years in his life. Also, it will take 7 books to get Harry
to the point where he has to face, um I can’t say. But in Book 7,
you know, there’s a big climax coming here and it will take that
many books to get him there.
Well, you know it is interesting. We asked, you know on our web page
we ask people to send us their questions for you and the one sort of main
thread of all sorts of things people want to ask, it is this fear that
success is going to spoil Harry either in the story or that movies, Warner
Brothers are going to Americanize or ---
JKR: Butcher my baby.
Yeah, exactly. Does the 7 year planning, I mean the 7 volume outline
of this whole saga protect him from that?
JKR: Yes, it does very much so, because I don’t reach the end of
a book and think, ‘OK what will we do with him now?’ That’s
already decided. I mean, I’m on Book 4 at the moment. I plotted
Book 4 back in 19, well it must have been 1993, I think. I was pregnant
with my daughter, in fact, when I was plotting this book. So, it’s
already cast. His future is cast. You know people shouldn’t be frightened
that there are going to be dramatic changes owing to whatever is happening
to him out in the Muggle world because it’s already been planned.
How are you going to protect him on the silver screen?
JKR: Warner Brothers are giving me a lot of input, I feel. I can’t
lie to you, I am nervous about it. I think every writer who feels as I
feel about their characters is going to be nervous. I’m both nervous
and excited. If Warners make the film they are talking about making, I
think it will be a great film. And I tell you, the thing I really want
to watch is Quiddich. Quiddich being the sport played on broomsticks with
4 balls, 4 flying balls.
For them it’s what soccer is for the rest of England, played
up in the air on Broomsticks with 4 balls?
JKR: Exactly. What baseball would be to you. Wizards, all wizards are
obsessed with Quiddich.
How is this going to be done? By animation? By special effects?
JKR: No, it’s live action so it will be special effects. I can see
Quiddich inside my head very clearly and so that’s not a very normal
or perhaps even a healthy thing, but I see it really clearly inside my
mind’s eye. Yeah, so the idea of being able literally to see it
up on the screen. I mean it would just be the most incredible thing to
me, so if they do what they say they’re going to do, it will be
a great film and I’ll be a huge watcher. So, I’m hoping.
The Connection Writers out there. All the little girls who want to
be writers and who started writing their first story at age 6, give J.
K. Rowling a call. That was her ambition and she is --- you may be just
far as the planet with the production of these books by the time all 7
volumes are out. They’ve been 1, 2 and 3 on the New York Times best
seller list. The adventures of Harry Potter: Harry Potter and the Sorcerer’s
Stone, Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets, Harry Potter and the Prisoner
of Azkaban and that‘s just 3. There will be a set of 7. They are
taking the English speaking world by storm, best sellers in the United
States and in England. It’s our moment, Connection listeners to
put our finger on the power of these stories (gives phone number to call)
The Harry Potter Connection, Billy is on the line.
Hi, I was wondering how you came up with the main ideas for Harry Potter
and how you came up with such interesting names for them.
JKR: As I’ve said, I collect names. I’ve always collected
names, so I’ve got notebooks full of them. I like inventing names.
Quiddich, I, --- the name Quiddich, I, --- it took me ages to find the
right name for it, took me about 2 days and I’ve still got the notebook
I did it in and you can see Quiddich at the bottom of the last page of
this notebook underlined about 50 times because when I stumbled across
it I knew it was the right one. As far as the storylines go, some of them
are inspired by folklore. I mean there’s some interesting stuff
out there that you can use. But mostly it comes out of my head and I know
that’s not a great answer, but it’s the best I’ve got.
Where do ideas come from? I’ve no idea.
Billy, what’s your favorite name?
I don’t know. I like Quiddich and I like Dumbledore.
JKR: Yeah, Dumbledore, as I said, is an old English word meaning bumblebee.
I like Dumbledore, it sounds endearing and strangely impressive at the
same time.
These names are important. You know, Henry James’s notebooks
are full of names that he wanted to try out.
JKR: Right. I very much identify with that. Names are really crucial to
me. Some of my characters have had 8 or 9 names before I hit the right
one. And for some reason, I just can’t move on until I know I’ve
called them the right thing. That’s very fundamental to me.
You know. It’s fascinating. I heard Jonathan say once ‘what
novelist in the world would have dared come up with a name like Daryl
Strawberry, the real life outfielder for the Mets and Yankees?’
JKR: Right. Exactly. It’s a really weird thing.
Hannah is on the line.
I wanted to ask you how did your daughter react to the Harry Potter
books.
JKR: My daughter, um it’s funny you should ask that because I’ve
only recently read her the first book.
How old is she now?
JKR: She’s 6. Initially I had said to her I would wait until she
was 7, but she kept asking me and asking me and I thought oh well, we’ll
try and it was the most important reading ever in my life. I’ve
read to about a thousand people and I read to my own daughter in our sitting
room and it was the most incredible reading ever, and it was the most
nerve racking. I was more frightened reading to her than I was to a thousand
people at a time because obviously, I really, really want her to like
what I’m doing. It’s very important. Then she went away and
she painted a lightening scar on her own forehead so I assumed that she
did like them. Well, in fact I know that she does like them. She asks
me all the time to read her more.
Wonderful. Hannah, thank you (gives phone number again) Marcus is
on the line.
Hi, my question is who’s the next Defense Against the Dark
Arts teacher?
There are people cheering here. I can see them through the glass because
they wanted you to ask that.
JKR: Oh, should I tell you? Do you really want to know? Will it ruin it?
What?
JKR: Won’t it ruin it if I tell you?
No!
JKR: (JKR laughs)
Will you buy the book anyway?
JKR: It’s not him buying the book, I’m worrying about. I just
wondered about ruining things. I’m not going to tell you exactly
who it is. I’ll tell you, it’s someone ---- he’s quite
a scary character for the first time they get someone quite impressive
as the Defense Against the Dark Arts teacher. I will tell you that for
the first time you see a teacher who really takes on Draco Malfoy.
OK
JKR: OK, so that’s quite cool. There’s also something very
distinctive about the new Defense Against the Dark Arts teacher’s
appearance. He’s got a magical eye. Now, I’ve given you a
really big secret. That’s supposed to be a big surprise.
Marcus, thank you. Tell us more about Draco Malfoy. There’s
a name that sort of gives it away.
JKR: There’s a name I conjured up.
Draco, bad faith or something.
JKR: Yeah. Exactly.
Harry’s sort of opposite number.
JKR: Yeah. We’ve all met him. He is the bully of the most refined
type in that unlike Dudley, Harry’s cousin who is a physical bully,
but really not bright enough to access all of your weak points. Draco
is, um, he’s a snob. He’s a bigot and he’s a bully,
and as I say, in the most refined sense, he knows exactly what will hurt
people and the scary thing is, but the predictable thing is that most
of the children I meet say that they know him or they know her because
you get female Malfoys as well.
Where did you meet the Draco Malfoy of your life?
JKR: Oh, I’ve known about 3. I knew one at school and I‘ve
known them since. They don’t seem to disappear as you get older,
unfortunately, but that‘s a facet of life that you‘ve got
to deal with and I think children actually enjoy watching Harry and his
friends deal with it.
What about Snape?
JKR: Snape is a very sadistic teacher, loosely based on a teacher I myself
had, I have to say. I think children are very aware and we are kidding
ourselves if we don’t think that they are, that teachers do sometimes
abuse their power and this particular teacher does abuse his power. He’s
not a particularly pleasant person at all. However, everyone should keep
their eye on Snape, I’ll just say that because there is more to
him than meets the eye and you will find out part of what I am talking
about if you read Book 4. No, I’m not trying to drum up more sales,
go to the library and get it out. I’d rather people read it.
One of our internet correspondents wondered if Snape is going to
fall in love.
JKR: (JKR laughs) Who on earth would want Snape in love with them? That’s
a very horrible idea.
There’s an important kind of redemptive pattern to Snape
JKR: He, um, there’s so much I wish I could say to you, and I can’t
because it would ruin. I promise you, whoever asked that question, can
I just say to you that I’m slightly stunned that you’ve said
that and you’ll find out why I’m so stunned if you read Book
7. That’s all I’m going to say.
This is encouraging. (Gives phone number) Joe is on the line.
Yes, hi, it’s nice to speak to you and thank you for writing
these books.
JKR: Oh, my pleasure, believe me.
You were just saying how you read it to your daughter, to your
6 year old daughter. When we sat down, we read this chapter by chapter.
Every night the kids couldn’t wait for the next night. The characters
are so great you can come up with wonderful voices, reading out loud to
your kids with Hagrid and Dumbledore. Did you get that with your daughter
too? Were you getting into the voices?
JKR: Well, I’m really into the voices and I really let myself go
when I read to my daughter. I’m not quite that uninhibited when
I’m reading to a lot of people.
Jo, let’s hear what Dumbledore sounds like.
JKR: Well, I use a little Sean Connery production. I put a little shurr
into the s’s. (slurred Albus Dumbledore voice) But my favorite was
Hagrid. He was more of a Monty Python character. (Does Hagrid voice)
(Laughs) One of the Gumbys
JKR: No, he wasn't gumby wasn’t he?
(Still laughing) No, I don’t really see Hagrid as a gumby
though I like your interpretation.
JKR: I had Margaret Thatcher for Professor McGonagall.
OK, that works. Yeah, Margaret Thatcher, very much for Professor
McGonagall.
It’s so great. It’s such a great read. We need to
get a whole bunch because we’ll be reading all year long.
JKR: There’s nothing better I can hear than that. I really
--- the idea of entire families reading the books together is just a wonderful
thing because I am, I am convinced that is such a powerful way to get
children reading.
And writing, my older daughter just spent the whole weekend
writing a poem and creating ideas for Halloween and I think you are inspirational.
JKR: Fabulous. Thank you. That’s wonderful. Wish her luck. That’s
how I started.
Jo, you’re a great actor and thank you for calling. I want
to hear J. K. Rowling herself do ----
Do Dumble, not Dumbledore, Hagrid
> Either one
JKR: Well, Hagrid’s sort of West Country, Yocal, which is
where I grew up, the part of Britain where I grew up. I didn’t grow
up in Scotland, I grew up on the border with Wales so Hagrid‘s kind
of (does Hagrid voice), like that, very slurred words. It’s the
accent English people always put on to sound stupid. Hagrid isn’t
stupid, but he’s got that kind of very country, you know, way of
speaking.
And how about Minerva McGonagall?
JKR: Oh, very clipped and very, very quite upper class and very brisk,
a governess. I can’t do it, but I kind of see Dumbledore more as
a John Gielgud type. You know, quite elderly and quite stately.
And Harry himself
JKR: I suppose he sounds like me. I always do my voice for Harry when
I’m reading to my daughter.
I wonder if you would give us the sound of J. K. Rowling, but maybe
the sound of Harry Potter too in that zoo scene.
JKR: The zoo scene, OK this is quite a long reading (reads zoo scene from
Book 1)
This is a great privilege, let me say, to all of us in the Connection
World to have J. K. Rowling with us live in the studio in Boston, the
author of all 3 best sellers.
JKR: All of them, wrote them all myself.
Right, at the top of the New York Best Sellers List, the adventures
of Harry Potter, and this is just the first 3 of 7. I’m not sure
if there is anything like this since the high watermark of the late, great
Charles Dickens. The legend was that when his serialized publication of
“The Old Curiosity Shop” was coming to America, the books
would come into the New York Harbor and people would be lined up on the
docks yelling to people on board “Is Little Nell still alive?”
People feel this same way about Harry Potter and she’s with us today
(gives phone number and commercial break).
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Just in general, J. K. Rowling, what’s the --- what do you
think of as the moral of these stories. I hear a lot of your own sort
of reliving school life in the form of Harry who is really gifted beyond
his awareness. He could be much more powerful that he actually is. There
is something deeply ---- deeply exemplary, moral, good about this young
man. What are the stories trying to tell us about goodness?
JKR: Again, this sounds like a huge cop-out, but it’s hard for me
to give you the full picture without ruining future plots. Because, there
are kids out there so attuned to these books that if I say ‘well,
you might just find out X,Y, they’ll think ’Ah right, so and
so is going to die, so and so‘s obviously going to learn to do this’,
you know. They’ll just know, so I have to be careful about what
I say. Harry is someone who is forced, for such a young person, to make
his own choices. He has very limited access to truly caring adults and
he is guided by his conscience. Now, Harry makes mistakes repeatedly.
Harry did things like --- he did steal the flying car. That was a very
stupid thing to do, but it seemed like a great idea at the time. We’ve
all been there. But, ultimately Harry is guided by his conscience. He
is flanked by 2 friends. They work far better as a team than apart though
Harry tends to be the one who has to shoulder most of the burden. He is
a true hero in that sense. Hermione, who’s really the brains of
the outfit and Ron who is also a very brave character. I mean I deeply
admire bravery in all forms. That’s why in Book 1, if people have
read Book 1, they’ll remember that Neville Longbottom who is a comic,
but he’s not a wholly comic figure to me. Neville is actually quite
a tragic figure to me as well, because there’s a lot of Neville
in me. This feeling of just never being quite good enough. I mean we’ve
all felt that atsome point, and I felt that a lot when I was younger. I wanted
to show Neville doing something brave. It’s not as spectacularly
brave as Harry and Hermione do, but he finds true moral courage in standing
up to his closest friends, the people who are on his side, but he still
thinks they are doing wrong and he tells them so. So, that’s a very
important moment for me too in the first book.
Dumbledore says to Harry at one point that it’s the choices
we make that show what we truly are. Choices more than ---
JKR: More than our abilities, yeah, yeah. Well, that’s something
I do truly believe and that’s something where --- we see very much
with Harry. He is the one who has to make the choices and he genuinely
has --- as we say, he has very limited access to adults who can help him.
Because most of his friends have parents at home --- OK, they are all
existing as wizards --- but they have a safety net. People who have ---children
who have loving parents or guardians or family basically, they have a
safety net. Harry doesn’t have that so he’s more alone than
most children are. And therefore his choices are revealing him as someone
who is brave, someone who is trying to do the right thing. Someone who
occasionally slips up as we all do.
(gives phone number) Jim is on the line.
Good morning, J.K. What an utter honor it is to speak to you,
madame. You are a hero of mine and I’m sure of many other parents.
I have a couple of questions. You have such fabulous characters, but they
are almost all boys. Hermione is a swot, a very wonderful person, but
almost a cop-out in some ways.
JKR: Please don’t say that because she is actually based on me.
Oh, dear. I’ll stop now then. Do you get grief --- do you
get criticism that you don’t have enough females in strong positions
in your stories?
JKR: Well, in fact, if you run down the staff list at Hogwarts ---. People
have said this to me before, I have to say that. There are many things
I can say to that. The first thing I should say is that I had been writing
this book for 6 months before I myself, it did take me 6 months, stopped
and thought ‘Hang on, why is it Harry, why isn’t it Harriet?
Why is this a boy?‘ Now, the answer is that Harry came to me so
complete, so real that if I had stopped, after 6 months of writing and
thought, ‘we’ll change him into a girl, I’m going to
be politically correct, I’m going to make a heroine‘, it would
have been putting Harry into drag. He was too real to me by then to turn
him into a girl. He was a boy in my head and I already had Hermione and
I had Ron and I was too fond of them by then to want to tamper with them
so that is my answer and I’m sticking by it, I’m unapologetic
about it. If you look down the staff list in the school, you will find
that it is exactly 50% women and 50% men as teachers. Now, people possibly
don’t realize that enough. I see Professor McGonagall, for example,
as a very strong female character. I did get an e-mail the other day from
someone in America, saying ‘When are we going to see a strong female
character?’ and I wrote back and told her I was deeply offended
because I think Hermione and Professor McGonagall are very strong characters.
But I did say to her ‘but if you mean a nasty female character,
wait till Book 4.’
Oh, OK. I have a very serious question as well. Harry is aging
about a year per book --
JKR: Yes, he is, yes.
I have a 9 year old who is utterly dedicated to Harry and I
have a 7 year old coming on. Harry at 14 or 15 will not relate to my 9
year old, I think in the same way. Is he going to slow down his aging
process or is he ---
JKR: No, no I’m not. I’ve given some thought to this and I’ve
chosen the way I’m going to do it. If people are unhappy with it,
then I’m going to be sorry about that, but, you know, I have to
go the way that I think is best to go. And the way I think is best ----
I always wanted Harry to grow up plausibly. You know, we are going to
see him --- the plot demands that he ages about a year a book. The plot
demands that he comes of age in the final book. Now I have a real moral
objection to books that freeze children in prepubescence even though they
are actually, in earth years, 16 years old, but they are still behaving
as 8 or 9 year olds.
Now, if I get the tone right, I do believe that your 9 year old will still be interested in a 14 year old Harry. Obviously, it is inappropriate in books like these, it would be totally alien to the tone of these books if I got into too brutally realistic of an area ---- you know, we’re not going to be looking at teenage pregnancy here, we’re not going to be looking at drug taking here, you know. This would be totally alien to the spirit of these books. However, I do want Harry to grow up in a realistic way.
Does this mean we are going to see the hormones kicking in?
JKR: Yes, the hormones do kick in in Book 4. You know, the bottom line
is I can’t be led by what people want me to write, I have to write
what I want to write --- that’s just the way it’s got to be.
I’ve got to write what I want to write. If by Book 6, I’m
only writing to 6 people and I’ve lost everyone else, yeah, I’m
going to be sorry about that, but I will feel that I have to stand by
what I want to do.
I sometimes get letters from parents saying ‘well, we love your books, but they’re a little bit too scary, so could you stop doing that’. Well, I’m afraid no, I can’t, I have to write what I want to write. I’m not writing to order here, so I’m going to be sorry if children don’t want to keep up with Harry. I personally believe they will. I do not believe I’m going to be doing anything that will alienate a 9 year old.
I think your readers want you to stay right on it as the writer.
(gives phone number) Pete is on the line.
Hi, I have a question about Hagrid.
JKR: Oh, Cool. I like Hagrid. Ask away.
Is he going to be in the rest of the books?
JKR: Yes.
He’s my favorite character.
JKR: Oh, is he your favorite character? I like you because he’s
one of my favorite characters. Yeah, if you take away Harry and Hermione
and Ron, then I love Hagrid the best definitely. He is going to be around.
You are going to keep seeing him. I suspect that the reason you are asking
this is because there is a rumor going around that people are going to
die in the upcoming books. People are going to die and I’m not going
to tell you who is and who isn’t because--- that’s for very
obvious reasons.
How do rumors like this get started?
JKR: Because I answer questions honestly and then they get posted
on the internet. Someone said to me ‘Is anyone going to die?’
and I said ‘Yeah, there are going to be deaths’ and the next
thing you know, there were rumors flying everywhere that I was about to
murder Ron in Book 4. You know, these things get blown up.
Pete, did you have more? Did you want to follow up?
Yeah, my other question was the guy who’s the bully, what
was his name again?
JKR: Dudley, no, Draco Malfoy, which one?
Malfoy, yeah, him. I read the first book at camp and how did
Malfoy feel so strongly against him in the first book?
JKR: Why does Malfoy dislike Harry so much in the first book?
Yes
JKR: Well, if you notice the very first time that Malfoy meets Harry and
knows that it’s Harry, he makes an effort to be his friend. He does
actually want to be associated with Harry because he knows that it would
be cool to turn up at the school being Harry Potter’s friend because
Harry’s so famous. Well Harry rebuffs him because Malfoy is being
so rude about Hagrid and about Ron who Harry likes so much and it’s
at that point that Malfoy turns against him. Because Malfoy is, -------
yet again this is so frustrating, I can’t tell you everything I
could tell you because it would ruin future books for you. But Malfoy
comes from a family who has strong associations with dark magic as you
know and you are going to find out more about that in Book 4. So Malfoy
is kind of --- he wanted to be Harry’s friend, Harry didn’t
want him as a friend and that made him bitter. That‘s the starting
point.
Pete, will that help you? I hope it will. (gives phone number) Thank
you, Pete. Damon is on the line.
J.K. I have a major question to ask you.<
JKR: Go for it.
First, I want to say “Blessed be”. Are you craft
or are you Muggles?
JKR: Am I a Muggle? Yes, I am definitely a Muggle. A Muggle with an abnormal
amount of knowledge about the wizarding world.
Because, you do ---- You do your homework quite well.
JKR: Yeah, I know a lot about it, but, no, I’m not in any kind of
--- I don’t head up my own coven at all, no.
Damon, which side of the line are you calling from?
What?
Which side of the Muggle line are you calling from?
JKR: Well, he’s definitely wizarding.
Well, put it this way. Since your books came out, my step daughter
now talks to me. I’ve had the books and she’s going ‘you
got the books, you got the books.’
JKR: Oh, I’m glad, I’m glad. I like bringing people together
I have another question on that. How many more books are there?
I had this discussion with my step daughter yesterday. Will there be 7
books for the 7 years of school?
JKR: Exactly, there will be 7 books.
Oh, there is 7. All right!!
JKR: Yeah, one for each of his years at Hogwarts, yeah
And nothing about him after school.
JKR: Probably not. I can’t say more than that, but no, I planned
7 and I’m going to stick with 7, I think.
Damon, thank you. (gives phone number) Chelsey is on the line.
Hi, I wanted to know if Professor Lupin is going to turn up in any
of the other stories.
JKR: Professor Lupin, yeah, for people who maybe haven’t gotten
that far or haven’t read the books at all, Professor Lupin is the
Defense Against the Dark Arts teacher in Book 3. Now, he is one of my
favorite characters in the whole series. Yes, he will be coming --- you
will see him again. Quite a few of the characters that crop up in the
books do come back because, I mean you know, they are friends of Harry’s
now even if they’re not are actually living at Hogwarts. You will
see Professor Lupin again in Book 5, not in Book 4. Also Dobby, the house
elf who you see in the 2nd book, he also crops up again. So, you’ve
got to keep your eye on these characters because they do come back.
Chelsey, I wonder why you asked about Professor Lupin.
Because I liked him a lot.
JKR: Oh, good, I’m glad, because, do you know what? From the moment
I started writing Book 1, I’ve been looking forward to writing Book
3 because of Professor Lupin, because I knew that’s he made his
first appearance. He’s one of my favorite characters.
People on the internet want to know if Gilderoy Lockhart is going
to come back.
JKR: Gilderoy Lockhart, bless him, is currently residing in St. Mungo’s
Hospital for Magical Maladies and Injuries and his memory is still gone.
So at the moment, he’s in no fit state to go anywhere. Which I think
serves him right.
You didn’t quite answer the question as to whether he will
be back or not.
JKR: Yeah, well, you know, you’ve got to sometimes dodge these things.
Chelsey, thank you (gives phone number) Kathleen is on the line.
Hi, how are you? Thank you so much for taking our call. I’m
actually calling from my classroom right now ---- it’s a sixth grade
class. This is a special treat.
JKR: Hi everyone
Anyway, it’s very exciting. We just love Harry Potter.
We’re curious ---- well first of all we can’t wait for Books
4, 5, 6 and 7. But after that, we’re curious as to whether Harry
is going to have a life after Hogwarts, or if maybe, Harry might be a
Hogwarts teacher.
JKR: Well, because all your kids said ‘hello’ so nicely in
the background there, I am going to give you information I haven’t
given anyone else and I will tell you that one of the characters, one
of Harry’s classmates, though it’s not Harry himself, does
end up a teacher at Hogwarts. But, it is not, maybe the one you think,
hint, hint, hint. Yeah, one of them does end up staying at Hogwarts, but
----
Do the kids want to guess at it, Kathleen?
JKR: Do you guys have a guess as to who it is?
(Kids shouting in background) Ron
They say Ron.
JKR: No, it’s not Ron. I can’t see Ron as a teacher. No way.
Well, we have just been having such a fun time with Harry Potter and we’re
so thrilled that you took our call. We’re just all absolute huge
fans. Thank you so much. You make our day everyday.
That’s wonderful to hear. Thank you for calling.
JKR: Kathleen, thank you. (gives phone number) Peter is on the line.
Hi, I really like the books and we already learned a lot about
Harry’s father and I was wondering ‘Are we going to learn
a lot about his mother?’
JKR: Yeah, you will. It’s ---- yet again ---- you won’t find
out ---- OK, in Book 3 you’re absolutely right. You find out a lot
about Harry’s father. Now the important thing about Harry’s
mother, the really, really significant thing, you’re going to find
out in 2 parts. You’ll find out a lot more about her in Book 5,
or you’ll find out something very significant about her in Book
5, then you’ll find out something incredibly important about her
in Book 7. But I can’t tell you what those things are so I’m
sorry, but yes, you will find out more about her because both of them
are very important in what Harry ends up having to do.
Peter, what’s your guess about Lily? What’s the real
story of Harry’s mother?
I don’t really know, but I’m guessing that, maybe
she is going to come back to life, maybe, in the 7th book or something
like that.
JKR: Well, it would be nice, but I’ll tell you something. You’ve
raised a really interesting point there, Peter, because when I started
writing the books, the first thing I had to decide was not what magic
can do, but what it can’t do. I had to set limits on it immediately
and decide what the perimeters are. One of the most important things I
decided was that magic cannot bring dead people back to life. That’s
one of the most profound things. The natural laws of death applies to
wizards as it applies to Muggles and there is no returning once you’re
properly dead. You know, they might be able to save very close to death
people better than we can, by magic. They have certain knowledge we don’t,
but once you’re dead, you’re dead. So, yeah, I’m afraid
there will be no coming back for Harry’s parents.
Peter, do you want to take another stab at the real story of Lily,
or not?
Nah!
JKR: Nah, don’t blame you.
You done good, Peter. Thank you. (gives phone number) Noreen is
calling from Winooski, Vermont.
Hi, J.K. This is exciting to actually talk to you. I’m calling
from an independent bookstore in Winooski, Vermont.
JKR: Yay, I love independent bookstores.
I’ve read your books. They are so creative and they’re
such a wonderful escape. I’ve read all 3 of them. All of us there
always look forward to the reader’s copies that we get. We pass
them around. And then we sell your books to adults and kids, of course.
I’ve heard that you have all of the books basically written and
that you have ----
JKR: Oh, I wish, no, not written, no, planned.
You have plans. I’ve heard that you have pieces of the
books on scraps of paper and they’re in a box.
JKR: Oh, that’s true, yeah
I’m wondering. It sounds like maybe putting the books
together is like fitting a puzzle, the pieces of a puzzle together.
JKR: No, there’s still a lot of writing to do. I mean it’s
---- no, it’s not true that I‘ve ---- that was true about
the 1st book. I had this mountain of notes and it was almost like carving
a book out of this mass of stuff with Book 1 which required a lot of work.
Of course there was a lot of writing involved, rewriting. But as I go
on ---- no, I have the bare outline of the books, there are pieces of
all of them, sort of snippets of all of them written, ideas I’ve
had that I’ve jotted down at some point, entire pages sometimes
that I‘ve thought, oh yeah, that‘s how we‘re going to
do that bit of Book 4, whatever it might be. But no, I’m not that
far on. I do have to sit down and actually write them. But, as I think
I said earlier, I never finish a book and then think ’OK, what’s
Harry going to do next?’ I always know exactly what Harry is going
to be doing next.
The framework
JKR: Yeah, exactly, but still with enough freedom to invent stuff as I
go along. Otherwise, it wouldn‘t be nearly as much fun. I mean,
I haven’t got every single detail down before I start writing because
that would, you know, that would just stop it being, you know ---- I don’t
know, just I wouldn’t have the freedom to do what I do.
I have one more kind of self-serving question. Is there any way
that we could get you to our bookstore in Winooski, Vermont which is near
Wellington, Vermont and how would I do that?
JKR: I’m really, really sorry about this. I’m actually here
with someone from my publisher who is having a mental breakdown because
the poor woman is having just a deluge of requests. I just don’t
have enough hours in the day and I am truly sorry about that.
Thank you very much for answering my question.
JKR: Thank you. It was great to talk to you.
Noreen, thank you. We are very privileged to have you here. I just
want to ask you some questions in what time we have left. Who formed you
as a writer? People compare you to the greats. I mean, Jane Austin and
Dickens, but also in our own century, P. L. Travers, Roald Dahl, E. Nesbitt.
What did you read as a child growing up and what is the sort of pantheon
in which you sort of find yourself?
JKR: Of the 3 writers you’ve just mentioned there, E. Nesbitt is
the one that I’m most flattered to be compared to. I loved and I
still love her books. I really love her books. I recently read, I’ve
never read them before as a child, I read her fairy tales and it was just
---- I just loved them and they’re ---- in many ways I think they
are close to what I do because they is a lot of sort of modern detail
among these fairy tales. You have princes advertising themselves for adventures,
eligible princes and stuff and it’s a kind of a quirky twist always
on the more traditional form. I think there is elements of that in what
I do. Roald Dahl, I am very often compared to Dahl in Britain and I think
that there is a very basic reason for that, not necessarily a very plausible
reason for that. A lot of people when they were first writing about me
were not terribly knowledgeable about the world of children’s books,
to be honest with you, and I have a feeling that they were thinking ’well,
I will compare her to the last person that we have heard of‘, which
was Roald Dahl. There are certain similarities. He was great on detail
also. You know. He loved putting in these very detailed things, but he‘s
not my favorite children‘s writer.
Tolkien, C. S. Lewis?
JKR: I’ve read both of them. Both of them were geniuses. I’m
immensely flattered to be compared to them, but I think I‘m doing
something slightly different again.
I’m so happy that you welcomed the E. Nesbitt comparison. My
3 daughters grew up on E. Nesbitt and -----
JKR: I’m really glad to hear it and I wish ----
While you’re waiting on the next Harry Potter book, Mom, Dad,
kids, try E. Nesbitt. Give them a title to begin with.
JKR: ”The Treasure Seekers”, definitely, I think is an absolute
masterpiece.
J. K. Rowling, it’s a real privilege and pleasure to have
you on The Connection. Thank you.
JKR: Thank you so much. I really enjoyed it.